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Torres is not your average footballer. There will be no tabloid tales of bad boy behaviour, no sordid nightclub tales or weekly pictures of his latest supercar. Nights in playing cards, watching television with his stunning wife Olalla Dominguez Liste, or even a bit of DIY? Now you're talking.
He explained: "I'm very much a homely person. I am at my most comfortable and relaxed there. One of my favourite moments each day, matches permitting, is the evening stroll with Olalla (my wife) and our two dogs. They're English bulldogs, a male called Pomo and a female called Llanta. We have found a couple of parks near where we live that are relaxed and peaceful, offering a real escape.
"At home, we spend time playing board games with friends and family. When it comes to Monopoly, Scatergory, or Hotel, there are real battles. For a change, we sometimes play cards, even though I'm not one for the typical footballer's game like poker or the games played with a 40-card Spanish deck, like mus or pocha. But I do enjoy playing brisca and tute, Spanish games similar to trumps.
"Television is an alternative and I like to be up to date with what’s going on in the world, and not just the sports news. My favourite programmes are ‘The Dog Whisperer’ and ‘Super Nanny’.
"I love Stanley Park, the one that divides Anfield and Goodison and which I got to know when I went to film the Spanish number 9 advert for Nike there. I've also been to Chester, and to Formby on the coast where, weather permitting, I like to devour a Flake 99, with raspberry sauce.
"We have adapted perfectly to Liverpool but when it comes to eating we still follow a Spanish timetable. Eating at English times still feels too early so we started arranging barbeques. A few of us got together along with Mikel Arteta from Everton. One Sunday we started eating in the garden, it was a sunny day with the odd cloud and we didn’t think anything of it....until the heavens opened and it started snowing. Yes, snowing! Since then, the slightest sign of bad weather and we set up in the garage instead.
"During my first few months in Liverpool I seemed to be permanently surrounded by hammers, screwdrivers, pliers and spanners as I discovered a new hobby: putting together furniture. There were tools everywhere.
"In Spain I hadn't put together a single wardrobe but here in England I found myself in the position where I either had to get on and do it or the box would just gather dust. Sometimes, I would end up getting so irritated I would end up crawling to bed shattered – but with the world done.
"My determination to finish the job off meant that one night in 2007 I didn't finish until the small hours. I had come home in a bad mood after we had lost 1-0 at home to Olympic Marseilles in the Champions League. I decided the best way to work the frustration out of my system was to put together two pieces of furniture for the living room. By the time I had finished it was 4am.

"You can only ever be a legend in someone's mind. So long as you never become a legend in your own, there's no problem. People want to pigeon-hole you, Fernando: they want to label you, rank you, judge you and compare you to others. But all that really matters is that you are yourself."
These were the words uttered to Fernando Torres just a few days after he had become Liverpool's record signing. His new mentor? The King of the Kop - Kenny Dalglish.
The enormous privilege of spending time with arguably the club's greatest ever player was not lost on the Spanish youngster.
And the advice, the inspiration, the invaluable experience gained from those moments with Dalglish will never be forgotten by the striker bidding to carve his place in British footballing history. Fernando said: "Dalglish told me that we're the ones who make people's dreams come true. The fans can't play, so they live their dreams through us.”
"There's nothing better than listening to the man who fans consider to be the greatest Liverpool player of all time: Kenny Dalglish. Kenny and I are not the same: he is the greatest player of all, I was just a new arrival."
Dalglish has taken a special interest in Torres. The symmetry between the two is there for all to see and while Torres is right - after two seasons it is ridiculous to mention him in the same breath as King Kenny - the start he has made at Anfield suggests it will only be a matter of time.
But there is more to Torres than his performances on the pitch. Dalglish has been impressed with the way he has submersed himself in the history and tradition, the values that are so important to Liverpool Football Club and its fans.
Dalglish and Torres met privately and spent time together inside a deserted Anfield. Their attention turned toward the Kop - and one of Dalglish biggest regrets.
Torres said: “Kenny revealed something that surprises me. He said, 'I always wanted to go on the Kop, but I never could. The only time I have ever been on the Kop is when the stadium has been empty. It's funny, my son has been there but I haven't. He lived a dream that I couldn't.”
"Like Kenny, I've only been on the Kop when it was empty. I would love to think that when I retire it will be impossible for me to watch a game from the Kop, too. That would mean I had achieved something great.”
"Dalglish told me that the key to Liverpool's success was the harmony within the team. He said, 'No team has ever been successful without a good atmosphere in the dressing room.”
"They don't have to go out for drinks together or be best friends but having a good group is very important. "We had a great dressing room, we were really united.'
"I talked about the fact that there are games when things don't go for you but that I will never hide. I always want the ball, even if I'm having a bad day. Liverpool's legendary number 7 said he was the same. He said, 'Of course you want the ball.”
You have to keep going. As a striker, you miss more chances than you score. The goals aren't what matter most; what matters most are the chances you miss.
'The more you miss, the closer you are to the next one you're going to score. You have to think like that: if you don't have the courage to develop that kind of attitude, you won't make it at this level.' "I learned so much from my time with Kenny. I really like him. He's a normal person who's very accessible. He says he doesn't feel like a legend but that's exactly what he is. The fact that he has stayed so normal really struck me.”
"I can't be compared to him but I feel proud to have been able to speak to him for so long. It was a real honour for him to have given up his time to talk to me.”
"Meeting Kenny has made me even more hungry for success, even more determined to work hard and maybe, just maybe, see if one day I can compare myself with him.”
"I'll never forget the last piece of advice he gave me. Just as he went out of the door, the greatest player in the history of Liverpool turned to me and said, 'Fernando, Liverpool is a special club with special fans. They love those players who love wearing their shirt. But they're not stupid: they know when players mean it and when they don't; they know when it's just for show - when a player kisses the badge and all that.
'They love to identify themselves with the players out on the pitch - and I think they're going to identify with you very, very easily.' "What an honour."
- Hillsborough service
"I could hardly believe what I was seeing. The stadium was almost full. The Kop was packed.”
"The reception we got at Anfield gave me goose bumps. All of our fans stood and gave us an ovation that seemed to go on for ages. The memorial for those who lost their lives sent a shiver through me. It was a tragedy provoked by negligence and one for which there still hasn't been an explanation.”
"The families of the dead are still demanding justice. For many the tears are still tears of anger.”
"The unity between players and fans comes in part from having that terrible experience together.”
"Whenever there is a minute's silence in England's football stadiums it is impeccably observed. It is a minute that goes straight to the heart. A tear puncturing the silence. Can you imagine the Atletico Madrid anthem being listened to in Real Madrid's stadium? There were Everton fans at Anfield on that anniversary day who listened in respectful silence. It could only happen in England.”
"If there is one thing that has really stood out for me since I've been in England, it's the huge human tide of Liverpool fans. Every player dreams of fans like that. Here at Anfield we've got them."


Joe wrote:And as for "buying their way" to the top - please show me a premier league team who has been in the top division for consecutive seasons without spending multi-millions.
hitman89762000 wrote:we all love torres everyone should love him the man is a **** legend!






Added time was introduced because of an incident which happened in 1891 during a match between Stoke and Aston Villa. Trailing 1–0 and with just two minutes remaining, Stoke were awarded a penalty. Villa's goalkeeper kicked the ball out of the ground, and by the time the ball had been recovered, the 90 minutes had elapsed and the game was over.
Source: wikipedia

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:Man Utd were definitely the better team and if it wasn't for Given, they would have won by 2 or 3, but I never agree with the deserved to win talk. A team only deserves to win if they convert their chances or if they are denied the opportunity from bad referee decisions. Man Utd couldn't score in the time given and only managed to score because the referee added on an extra 2 minutes.


Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.
Drew wrote:Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.
Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.
Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match

Drew wrote:Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.
Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.
Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match

Drew wrote:Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.
Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.
Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match






hitman89762000 wrote:6-1 just isn't good enough.....
Pippin wrote:hitman89762000 wrote:6-1 just isn't good enough.....
thanks for the lesson in football, i just hope we paid attention
hitman89762000 wrote:btw:
stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:hitman89762000 wrote:btw:
stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.
Ryan Taylor's was better.
hitman89762000 wrote:btw:
stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.

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