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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:21 am

peter kenyons gone from chelsea.




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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:36 am

He hasn't gone. He is just leaving his current role in October. He is still going to be working for Chelsea. I'm pleased I won't have to see his face as often though or hear him talk as much.
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:33 am

heres a excerpt from torres's autobiography:

Torres is not your average footballer. There will be no tabloid tales of bad boy behaviour, no sordid nightclub tales or weekly pictures of his latest supercar. Nights in playing cards, watching television with his stunning wife Olalla Dominguez Liste, or even a bit of DIY? Now you're talking.

He explained: "I'm very much a homely person. I am at my most comfortable and relaxed there. One of my favourite moments each day, matches permitting, is the evening stroll with Olalla (my wife) and our two dogs. They're English bulldogs, a male called Pomo and a female called Llanta. We have found a couple of parks near where we live that are relaxed and peaceful, offering a real escape.

"At home, we spend time playing board games with friends and family. When it comes to Monopoly, Scatergory, or Hotel, there are real battles. For a change, we sometimes play cards, even though I'm not one for the typical footballer's game like poker or the games played with a 40-card Spanish deck, like mus or pocha. But I do enjoy playing brisca and tute, Spanish games similar to trumps.

"Television is an alternative and I like to be up to date with what’s going on in the world, and not just the sports news. My favourite programmes are ‘The Dog Whisperer’ and ‘Super Nanny’.

"I love Stanley Park, the one that divides Anfield and Goodison and which I got to know when I went to film the Spanish number 9 advert for Nike there. I've also been to Chester, and to Formby on the coast where, weather permitting, I like to devour a Flake 99, with raspberry sauce.

"We have adapted perfectly to Liverpool but when it comes to eating we still follow a Spanish timetable. Eating at English times still feels too early so we started arranging barbeques. A few of us got together along with Mikel Arteta from Everton. One Sunday we started eating in the garden, it was a sunny day with the odd cloud and we didn’t think anything of it....until the heavens opened and it started snowing. Yes, snowing! Since then, the slightest sign of bad weather and we set up in the garage instead.

"During my first few months in Liverpool I seemed to be permanently surrounded by hammers, screwdrivers, pliers and spanners as I discovered a new hobby: putting together furniture. There were tools everywhere.

"In Spain I hadn't put together a single wardrobe but here in England I found myself in the position where I either had to get on and do it or the box would just gather dust. Sometimes, I would end up getting so irritated I would end up crawling to bed shattered – but with the world done.

"My determination to finish the job off meant that one night in 2007 I didn't finish until the small hours. I had come home in a bad mood after we had lost 1-0 at home to Olympic Marseilles in the Champions League. I decided the best way to work the frustration out of my system was to put together two pieces of furniture for the living room. By the time I had finished it was 4am.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:48 am

I love torres.
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:37 am

"You can only ever be a legend in someone's mind. So long as you never become a legend in your own, there's no problem. People want to pigeon-hole you, Fernando: they want to label you, rank you, judge you and compare you to others. But all that really matters is that you are yourself."

These were the words uttered to Fernando Torres just a few days after he had become Liverpool's record signing. His new mentor? The King of the Kop - Kenny Dalglish.

The enormous privilege of spending time with arguably the club's greatest ever player was not lost on the Spanish youngster.

And the advice, the inspiration, the invaluable experience gained from those moments with Dalglish will never be forgotten by the striker bidding to carve his place in British footballing history. Fernando said: "Dalglish told me that we're the ones who make people's dreams come true. The fans can't play, so they live their dreams through us.”

"There's nothing better than listening to the man who fans consider to be the greatest Liverpool player of all time: Kenny Dalglish. Kenny and I are not the same: he is the greatest player of all, I was just a new arrival."

Dalglish has taken a special interest in Torres. The symmetry between the two is there for all to see and while Torres is right - after two seasons it is ridiculous to mention him in the same breath as King Kenny - the start he has made at Anfield suggests it will only be a matter of time.

But there is more to Torres than his performances on the pitch. Dalglish has been impressed with the way he has submersed himself in the history and tradition, the values that are so important to Liverpool Football Club and its fans.

Dalglish and Torres met privately and spent time together inside a deserted Anfield. Their attention turned toward the Kop - and one of Dalglish biggest regrets.

Torres said: “Kenny revealed something that surprises me. He said, 'I always wanted to go on the Kop, but I never could. The only time I have ever been on the Kop is when the stadium has been empty. It's funny, my son has been there but I haven't. He lived a dream that I couldn't.”

"Like Kenny, I've only been on the Kop when it was empty. I would love to think that when I retire it will be impossible for me to watch a game from the Kop, too. That would mean I had achieved something great.”

"Dalglish told me that the key to Liverpool's success was the harmony within the team. He said, 'No team has ever been successful without a good atmosphere in the dressing room.”

"They don't have to go out for drinks together or be best friends but having a good group is very important. "We had a great dressing room, we were really united.'

"I talked about the fact that there are games when things don't go for you but that I will never hide. I always want the ball, even if I'm having a bad day. Liverpool's legendary number 7 said he was the same. He said, 'Of course you want the ball.”

You have to keep going. As a striker, you miss more chances than you score. The goals aren't what matter most; what matters most are the chances you miss.

'The more you miss, the closer you are to the next one you're going to score. You have to think like that: if you don't have the courage to develop that kind of attitude, you won't make it at this level.' "I learned so much from my time with Kenny. I really like him. He's a normal person who's very accessible. He says he doesn't feel like a legend but that's exactly what he is. The fact that he has stayed so normal really struck me.”

"I can't be compared to him but I feel proud to have been able to speak to him for so long. It was a real honour for him to have given up his time to talk to me.”

"Meeting Kenny has made me even more hungry for success, even more determined to work hard and maybe, just maybe, see if one day I can compare myself with him.”

"I'll never forget the last piece of advice he gave me. Just as he went out of the door, the greatest player in the history of Liverpool turned to me and said, 'Fernando, Liverpool is a special club with special fans. They love those players who love wearing their shirt. But they're not stupid: they know when players mean it and when they don't; they know when it's just for show - when a player kisses the badge and all that.

'They love to identify themselves with the players out on the pitch - and I think they're going to identify with you very, very easily.' "What an honour."


- Hillsborough service

"I could hardly believe what I was seeing. The stadium was almost full. The Kop was packed.”

"The reception we got at Anfield gave me goose bumps. All of our fans stood and gave us an ovation that seemed to go on for ages. The memorial for those who lost their lives sent a shiver through me. It was a tragedy provoked by negligence and one for which there still hasn't been an explanation.”

"The families of the dead are still demanding justice. For many the tears are still tears of anger.”

"The unity between players and fans comes in part from having that terrible experience together.”

"Whenever there is a minute's silence in England's football stadiums it is impeccably observed. It is a minute that goes straight to the heart. A tear puncturing the silence. Can you imagine the Atletico Madrid anthem being listened to in Real Madrid's stadium? There were Everton fans at Anfield on that anniversary day who listened in respectful silence. It could only happen in England.”

"If there is one thing that has really stood out for me since I've been in England, it's the huge human tide of Liverpool fans. Every player dreams of fans like that. Here at Anfield we've got them."
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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:10 am

Torres sounds like he is about 80.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:50 am

I love torres
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:11 am

we all love torres everyone should love him the man is a **** legend!!

we're playing the mancs tonight reserves oooooo
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Re: the football thread

Postby Drew » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:16 am

Joe wrote:And as for "buying their way" to the top - please show me a premier league team who has been in the top division for consecutive seasons without spending multi-millions.


Everton and Arsenal, the two longest serving top flight clubs

hitman89762000 wrote:we all love torres everyone should love him the man is a **** legend!

He`s no man he`s a LADY BOY, good footballer though
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Re: the football thread

Postby David Thomas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:03 pm

Gutted about last night, losing the derby 3-2.

I had a feeling we'd lose though. We've been poor all season bar one or two exceptions (i.e. first half v Barnsley and the match v Scunny we played really well - didn't go to Plymouth so can't comment on that). We were crap at Newcastle and Peterborough and poor against Forest too. First half vs Boro was OK but second half was absymal.

As for last night, it was an embarrassing performance in the first half, one of the worst I've seen. Second half was much better, but we had already lost it by then. But what makes it worse is that I didn't think United were that good either. They were obviously the better side in the first half, but we gifted them victory on a plate. Our defending was a complete shambles. We outplayed them in the second half but had given ourselves too big a mountain to climb.

The really annoying thing is that we nearly always play well in one half and crap in the other. Sometimes we play well in the first and crap in the second, or vice versa like last night. It's just not good enough.

I'm just glad that we made the score line more respectable in the end because at half time I was fearing it could have ended up being 5 or 6-0.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:12 pm

that was absolutley fuct :x
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Re: the football thread

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Re: the football thread

Postby Som » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:14 pm

A still means nothing, what actually happened?
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:41 pm

Yeah whats the score hitman?
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:17 pm

apparently a man u fan ran on the pitch after the match to take the piss outta city so bellamy decked him.
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:15 pm

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''eh lad cheers for the 6 mins instead of 4 haha''
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Re: the football thread

Postby Still no screen name » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:45 pm

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I only saw the second half. Great performance from United and a very enjoyable game. Giggs and Given (despite letting in 4) were excellent, Bellemy's goals were good, but that aside very little from City, two of their goals were complete **** ups from Foster and Ferdinand that were absolute shockers. United worthy of the points, but no doubt the refs decision to play 6 mins despite holding up 4 was a big part.

Added time was introduced because of an incident which happened in 1891 during a match between Stoke and Aston Villa. Trailing 1–0 and with just two minutes remaining, Stoke were awarded a penalty. Villa's goalkeeper kicked the ball out of the ground, and by the time the ball had been recovered, the 90 minutes had elapsed and the game was over.

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Ref in the Chelsea game was abysmal, missed a big penalty decision and he gave Chelsea all the breaks, I was convinced he left the cards in the dressing room until he finally showed one at the death.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:38 am

Man Utd were definitely the better team and if it wasn't for Given, they would have won by 2 or 3, but I never agree with the deserved to win talk. A team only deserves to win if they convert their chances or if they are denied the opportunity from bad referee decisions. Man Utd couldn't score in the time given and only managed to score because the referee added on an extra 2 minutes.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Evil Peter » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:27 am

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:Man Utd were definitely the better team and if it wasn't for Given, they would have won by 2 or 3, but I never agree with the deserved to win talk. A team only deserves to win if they convert their chances or if they are denied the opportunity from bad referee decisions. Man Utd couldn't score in the time given and only managed to score because the referee added on an extra 2 minutes.

I agree. If you don't score on your chances you don't deserve anything. If anything was "deserved" it was likely the draw as it's highly questionable that the overtime had so much stoppages to be increased that much. I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:52 am

I thought chelsea were deserved winners who looked awesome. The title is theres to lose
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Re: the football thread

Postby Drew » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:12 am

Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.


Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.

Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match
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Re: the football thread

Postby David Thomas » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:20 pm

Drew wrote:
Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.


Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.

Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match


Yeah, against Wednesday. :x

Even if the extra 2 minutes were warranted, they might as well give Man United the title now because the refs always do their best to help them win matches.
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Re: the football thread

Postby mojo jojo » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:41 pm

Drew wrote:
Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.


Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.

Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match


I read somewhere, I can't remember where but it said that with all the extra time including Bellamy's celebration there should have been 6 minutes and 26 seconds of extra time, and apparently Owen scored on 6 minutes and 27 seconds. I hate Man Utd but I love how all of the extra time played gets over analysed.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Evil Peter » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:57 pm

Drew wrote:
Evil Peter wrote: I didn't see it live but from what I've seen I highly doubt that over 1/3 of the stoppage time in the second half was in the 4 OT minutes.


Really, really hate to side with Man U but City scored a goal and there was a sustitution made during added time, add a min for bellends goal celebrations and 30 secs for the sub and Owen scored 3 seconds ago, anything else the ref added was for the goal celebration of Owen.

Mark Hughes complaining about time being added? wasnt he in the man u side that got a mystifing 9 mins added time a few years back? allowing them to score TWICE and win the match

My point was that the reason the added time was as low as 4 minutes is likely because the ref didn't add all the actual time that wasn't being played during the second half. That and the fact that refs seldom add that much onto the extra time makes it understandable that there's some controversy.

I'm not crying foul play though as it says clearly in the rules that the extra time is subject to the ref's discretion. There's not much you can say against that.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:36 am

Joanne you're right about the 26 seconds thing, i saw it on MOTD2.
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:51 am

sol campbell has quit notts county after just 1 game.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:18 am

I wouldn't like to know what goes on in Campbell's head. He should still be either playing in the Premier League or have just dropped down to the Championship.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Drew » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:20 am

maybe he`s seeing all the injured defenders in the prem and seeing pound signs maybe a move back to spurs has been whispered in his ear, dunno just bored speculating
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:58 am

If he went to spurs he could get a lift to work of his hubby.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:26 am

Jenas?
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:47 am

I think they're cute.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Drew » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:30 am

9days, 4games, 4wins, 12scored none conceded. Happy days, poor pompy deserved sumthing from that but im not complaining
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:33 am

6-1 just isn't good enough..... :P
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Re: the football thread

Postby Pippin » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:36 pm

hitman89762000 wrote:6-1 just isn't good enough..... :P


thanks for the lesson in football, i just hope we paid attention :lol:
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:50 pm

Pippin wrote:
hitman89762000 wrote:6-1 just isn't good enough..... :P


thanks for the lesson in football, i just hope we paid attention :lol:


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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:34 am

btw:

stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:53 am

hitman89762000 wrote:btw:

stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.


Ryan Taylor's was better. :P
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Re: the football thread

Postby hitman89762000 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:03 am

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:
hitman89762000 wrote:btw:

stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.


Ryan Taylor's was better. :P


yeah but his was against ipswich even jordan could score at ipswich...
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Re: the football thread

Postby Still no screen name » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:54 am

hitman89762000 wrote:btw:

stevie g's goal has gotta be goalof the month
babels has to be fluke of the season.


If Gerrard meant it then yeah, but I'm not sure he did. it could well be contending with Babel's.
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Re: the football thread

Postby Joe » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:58 pm

Ryan Taylors goal was completley saveable had it been a top flight keeper between the sticks.

Gerrards was a fluke - Torres tormented them. He could have been in double figures had he not been taken off after an hour! What a player.

We finally know what its like to be on the other side of the coin. Out worked, little passion, not much desire, silly mistakes, luck and two top drawer strikers. 5-2.
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